Any RPGs with sophisticated storylines?

I've been playing Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions on my PSP, and I'm thoroughly impressed with the story so far (I'm not that far in, though). Or rather, the story presentation. Sometimes I feel like I'm reading a novel. This is distinctly different from how I felt with many of the newer Final Fantasy games, which felt rather....fake. War of the Lions feels very much like history to me, because the world doesn't feel like it begins and ends with the characters the way the other recent FFs do. I've encountered very few RPGs with worlds that feel genuine. Most of the time, the world feels entirely contrived, like the world was designed entirely to justify a single plot point or a single game mechanic.I wonder, are there any other RPGs, western or Japanese, that have what I'd call ''historic'' storylines? Storylines that try to embed themselves as only a part of a long and complex history, rather than trying to make your party of characters the be-all-end-all of the in-game world all the time? You see it in fantasy novels all the time, where authors write stories which, while still epic, also feel like they are only a small part of a much larger world. It's what makes them so compelling. KotOR manages this pretty well, but only because the Star Wars universe has a long history that BioWare wasn't allowed to manipulate or define. The Elder Scrolls series attempts it, but since the story writers at Bethesda are pretty bad, they don't succeed very often.
Any RPGs with sophisticated storylines?
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...Any RPGs with sophisticated storylines?
Lost Odyssey has the best story line in a game ever for me, and Mass Effect story is stunning too
I know what you're saying, which is why I stopped playing Lost Odyssey as it became the cliche ''supergroup with two annoying children saving the world'' if that's what you were getting at.
[QUOTE=''Squeets'']Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to be a joke?
[QUOTE=''saolin323'']Lost Odyssey has the best story line in a game ever for me, and Mass Effect story is stunning too[/QUOTE]Lost Odyssey is the exact opposite of what the guy is looking for.
[QUOTE=''soulsofblayck''][QUOTE=''saolin323'']Lost Odyssey has the best story line in a game ever for me, and Mass Effect story is stunning too[/QUOTE]Lost Odyssey is the exact opposite of what the guy is looking for. [/QUOTE] I can forgive a cliched save-the-world plot if the characters are great, which I heard Lost Odyssey does really well, but yeah, that's not what I'm in the mood for right now.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Squeets'']Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to be a joke?[/QUOTE]No... it is an RPG with a good story...
Fallout 1+2
[QUOTE=''Squeets''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Squeets'']Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to be a joke?[/QUOTE]No... it is an RPG with a good story... [/QUOTE]It's more of a free roam adventure game with a mediocre story
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''soulsofblayck''][QUOTE=''saolin323'']Lost Odyssey has the best story line in a game ever for me, and Mass Effect story is stunning too[/QUOTE]Lost Odyssey is the exact opposite of what the guy is looking for. [/QUOTE] I can forgive a cliched save-the-world plot if the characters are great, which I heard Lost Odyssey does really well, but yeah, that's not what I'm in the mood for right now. [/QUOTE]The characters were great until you met the two whiner kids which made me so fed up that I stopped at the beginning of Disc 4.
Star wars KOTOR, Boulder's gate I and II, I also Liked Suikoden II storyline goodluck finding a copy tho
Well, here are my games that I think have fantastic stories:Fallout 1Fallout 2Final Fantasy VIIFinal Fantasy XChrono Trigger
[QUOTE=''Anthonydaking'']Star wars KOTOR, Boulder's gate I and II, I also Liked Suikoden II storyline goodluck finding a copy tho[/QUOTE] Oooh, Suikoden. I remember enjoying the first one, yet somehow I keep forgetting about it. :P
[QUOTE=''Anthonydaking'']Star wars KOTOR, Boulder's gate I and II, I also Liked Suikoden II storyline goodluck finding a copy tho[/QUOTE]So true...But if you think Suikoden II is hard to find, try finding Xenogears.
[QUOTE=''Squeets''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Squeets'']Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to be a joke?[/QUOTE]No... it is an RPG with a good story... [/QUOTE] Well, we clearly have different ideas of what constitutes a good story, sooo........
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Squeets''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Squeets'']Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion...[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to be a joke?[/QUOTE]No... it is an RPG with a good story... [/QUOTE] Well, we clearly have different ideas of what constitutes a good story, sooo........ [/QUOTE]Im sorry buy Oblivion has worst story ever.... he storytelling is bad and the overall story itself is mediocre.
[QUOTE=''II_Seraphim_II''][QUOTE=''Anthonydaking'']Star wars KOTOR, Boulder's gate I and II, I also Liked Suikoden II storyline goodluck finding a copy tho[/QUOTE]So true...But if you think Suikoden II is hard to find, try finding Xenogears.[/QUOTE] They're not that hard to find.BEHOLD! [url=http://cgi.ebay.com/Suikoden-II-Playstation-IN-SHRINK-WRAP-UNOPENED_W0QQitemZ180226262439QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180226262439]Suikoden II[/url] and [url=http://cgi.ebay.com/Xenogears-Brand-New-Factory-Sealed_W0QQitemZ230235762896QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230235762896]Xenogears[/url]!:P
Lost Odyssey has a kind of historic storyline considering most of the characters have lived 1000 years, you get to see there dreams which tell you alot about there past events which happened over the course of 1000 years. Although it's only text, there very good reads, they might even make you cry. And theres a lot of them aswell.
Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 are really good for that.