Wii VS PSP graphics comparison. (LINK)

I asked myself what had better graphics, wii or PSP, and I went on google and found this....http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/which-has-better-graphics-wii-or-psp-246119.phpWii VS PSP graphics comparison. (LINK)
Lets compare Mario Galaxy to God of war well we're at it.Wii VS PSP graphics comparison. (LINK)
Wii is odviously better.. I own both systems and love them both.. But with games like Smash Brothers, Twilight princess and Mario Galaxy, it looks better.
The Wii is a complete joke graphically but it's obviously better than the PSP, your comparison blows.
This was proven a fail from the forum you pulled it from. 1. the same screen shot from IGN looks far worse than the one posted there. 2. Most people see that the Wii shot looks better. 3. The only way a game can look better on the PSP is if the Devs fail because of the Hardware specs. Yes the Wii is weak but not that weak.
the screen shot does not do games like super mario galaxy justice
That's Alien Syndrome, right? That was a game ported to the PSP and Wii from a PS2 build. Same graphics and all.
Fanboy_Slay3rbad name..
COmpuer obviously has the worst graphics.. Since it can do games such as solitaire.. Nothing on consoles are worse then that graphicly.
[QUOTE=''numba1234'']Fanboy_Slay3rbad name.. [/QUOTE]I was thinking the exact same thing.1 game = every single game on a platform.
Wow Wii has worse graphics then the original XBOX.
The wii is a definaly more powerful then the psp. Futhermore the wii is more powerful then the orginal x-box
The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me
[QUOTE=''saolin323'']The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me[/QUOTE] It shows me how something has fallen and it isn't Nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Shazenab''][QUOTE=''saolin323'']The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me[/QUOTE] It shows me how something has fallen and it isn't Nintendo.[/QUOTE]Nintendo is still smaller then Sony.
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''Shazenab''] [QUOTE=''saolin323'']The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me[/QUOTE] It shows me how something has fallen and it isn't Nintendo.[/QUOTE]Nintendo is still smaller then Sony. [/QUOTE] Wrong again. I'm not thinking of a company.
how does the psp version of that look better
[QUOTE=''Shazenab''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''Shazenab''] [QUOTE=''saolin323'']The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me[/QUOTE] It shows me how something has fallen and it isn't Nintendo.[/QUOTE]Nintendo is still smaller then Sony. [/QUOTE] Wrong again. I'm not thinking of a company.[/QUOTE]All the sales of PSP+PSP+PS3 is greater then Nintendo DS + Wii.
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''Shazenab''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer''][QUOTE=''Shazenab''] [QUOTE=''saolin323'']The fact alone that someone compares a ''next gen'' console to .... PSP, a handheld shows how low Nintendo has fallen for me[/QUOTE] It shows me how something has fallen and it isn't Nintendo.[/QUOTE]Nintendo is still smaller then Sony. [/QUOTE] Wrong again. I'm not thinking of a company.[/QUOTE]All the sales of PSP+PSP+PS3 is greater then Nintendo DS + Wii.[/QUOTE] You really need to read what I'm saying. You're just unknowingly proving my point.
This thread was pointless. It's obvious the Wii is better. The PSP is a little weaker then the PS2, and the Wii is a good 3 times more powerful then a PS2 so which one produces better graphics? How about you compare Metrod Prime 3 to a shooter on the PSP? How about Super Mario Galaxy to Rachet and Clank? Are you trying to prove with one game (a port of an OLD game) that the PSP can provide graphics just as good as the Wii? :roll:

Guitar hero areosmith

I just heard about itwhat are your thoughts????i love guitar hero but im not a fan of aerosmithGuitar hero areosmith
Dumb idea. Unfortunately I'm so addicted I'll buy it despite that. Guitar hero areosmith
A Guitar Hero based around one band? No thanks.
A lot of people like Aerosmith so it makes sense I guess. I've always liked thir music. But I'm not a fan of Guitar hero as I suck really badly at it for some reason.
[QUOTE=''Haee''] A Guitar Hero based around one band? No thanks.[/QUOTE]Its based on Aerosmith and those who inspired them I believe. If it has a good playlist then I might think about getting it.
Geez, I don't even like Aerosmith....
[QUOTE=''Ragnarok1051''][QUOTE=''Haee''] A Guitar Hero based around one band? No thanks.[/QUOTE]Its based on Areosmith and those who inspired them I believe. If it has a good playlist then I might think about getting it.[/QUOTE]ya i would have to see the play list aswell before I buy
#Dude looks like a rehash, yeah, yeah#
Stupidest Idea ever. They blew it for guitar Hero 3, it was crap and this wont be any better. i dont even know like.. 3 areosmith songs... i dont think areosmith knows 3 areosmith songs
Yep, and I hear that if you preorder at Gamestop/EB, you will get a pair of these exclusive limited edition pants as worn here by Steven Tyler himself.:P Seriously though, lol, Aerosmith has some cool songs and all, but I think that Guitar Hero should stick with having tracks from various artists, so that the game will not lose it's appeal so quickly. Very bad idea in my opinion.
would have been better if it were something like guitar hero classic rock
Err.. Not a fan of Aerosmith. But Do't hate them. I gotta atleast like the list or I'll rent it.
Aerosmiths been my favorite band since i was like 5, so im stoked
[QUOTE=''Phoenix963'']Stupidest Idea ever. They blew it for guitar Hero 3, it was crap and this wont be any better. i dont even know like.. 3 areosmith songs... i dont think areosmith knows 3 areosmith songs[/QUOTE]its not aerosmiths fault ur like 10 years old. Would Guitar Hero: backstreet boys have been better..?oh, and: Sweet Emotion, Dream On, Walk this way, love in an elevator, kings and queens, livin on the edge, angel, crazy, cryin, Dude looks like a lady, Toys in the attic, the big 10 inch, hole in my soul, fallin in love is hard on the knees, just push play, jaded... and thats just a few from the different albums, theyve been around for over 30 years
sounds cool, aerosmith is pretty good.
If its budget-priced the way Rock the 80's was on the PS2 then yeah. I probably wouldn't pay more than $30 for it.
[QUOTE=''ApocalypseXIVV''][QUOTE=''Phoenix963'']Stupidest Idea ever. They blew it for guitar Hero 3, it was crap and this wont be any better. i dont even know like.. 3 areosmith songs... i dont think areosmith knows 3 areosmith songs[/QUOTE]its not aerosmiths fault ur like 10 years old. Would Guitar Hero: backstreet boys have been better..?oh, and: Sweet Emotion, Dream On, Walk this way, love in an elevator, kings and queens, livin on the edge, angel, crazy, cryin, Dude looks like a lady, Toys in the attic, the big 10 inch, hole in my soul, fallin in love is hard on the knees, just push play, jaded... and thats just a few from the different albums, theyve been around for over 30 years [/QUOTE] No, but Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix would be FAR better.
[QUOTE=''jackassultima''][QUOTE=''ApocalypseXIVV''][QUOTE=''Phoenix963'']Stupidest Idea ever. They blew it for guitar Hero 3, it was crap and this wont be any better. i dont even know like.. 3 areosmith songs... i dont think areosmith knows 3 areosmith songs[/QUOTE]its not aerosmiths fault ur like 10 years old. Would Guitar Hero: backstreet boys have been better..?oh, and: Sweet Emotion, Dream On, Walk this way, love in an elevator, kings and queens, livin on the edge, angel, crazy, cryin, Dude looks like a lady, Toys in the attic, the big 10 inch, hole in my soul, fallin in love is hard on the knees, just push play, jaded... and thats just a few from the different albums, theyve been around for over 30 years [/QUOTE] No, but Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix would be FAR better.[/QUOTE] true, but joe perry plays a nasty guitar and its not just aerosmith songs...its music that influenced the band as well, and i bet they tried to get a GH: led zepplin b4 aerosmith but the liscensing didnt work out or something
Metallica anyone?
This is Activision seeing how much it can milk a franchise, so I'm not buying into this at all. Ironically i'd buy GH:Queen though xD

Manticores which of your consoles you pl ...

Pc, 360, wii, ps3, Dreamcast *since its the son of god*Explain why.Manticores which of your consoles you pl ...
last gen I gamed more on xbox than the others, this gen it's 360 for me. But honestly I like them all, I just can't stand sony fanboysManticores which of your consoles you pl ...
This gen the 360, although I've been playing on my wii a lot more recently.
last gen ps2this gen 360
Xbox 360 > PS3 (Mostly Blu-Ray so far, but don't flame, as I have enjoyed quite a few good PS3 games as well) > Wii in terms of my play time.Simple reason, more of my IRL friends have 360s and Live, and I enjoy playing CoD4 and Halo 3 with them. Also, I personally prefer the 360s lineup ATM, but I see more PS3 titles creeping in soon, especially when I get enough spare cash to get Hot Shots Out of Bounds. The Wii and PS3 titles I have just have not had the same pull as the 360 games I have, although I was addicted to Ratchet and SMG for quite a while there.
ps3 by far, my wii is over at my grandmas since my 7yr old cousin gets more fun out of it than i do, and my 360 is... just, there.
The PC gets more of my time then the PS2 then the Wii followed by the PS3 and the 360. Funny thing though, it's that it was in reverse just 6 months ago.
my 360 gets the most play time out of them all. Last generation it was my ps2 but i did play my xbox a decent amount too.
It depends on what is out. I do not own a PS3, though I want one once MGS4 comes out along with the Esentials. Right now it's Wii > PC > PS2 > 360Wii = Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, The Lenged of Zelda: TP, Trauma Center: New Blood, No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki, Resident Evil 4, Super Paper MarioPC = Fable: The Lost Chapters (for when Fable 2 comes out), The Orange Box, Crysis, Bioshock, FEAR, Age of Empires 3PS2 = all the games I missed360 = Mass Effect, Halo 3, Assasins Creed (now sold), Call of Duty 4, Kameo (now sold), Dead or Alive 4 (now sold), and I think i'm missing something.... hm... oh well.
right now? i dunno really, not playing anything right now.
XBOX 360
360, mainly because of achievement led purchases of multiplats. Also i have a more robust XBL friends list, and tend to favor MP heavy games on 360 because of the lack of headset users on PSN. I still did manage to play through Uncharted and Heavenly Sword recentely, and have spent a hefty amount of time MLB 08, and SSBB.LO, RSV2, and rock Band probably spend the most time on my tv though.
PC.
[QUOTE=''TheMysticHorse'']PC.[/QUOTE]Not a manticore above me.But PC for me.
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I play the 360 mostly because it has the games I want to play at the moment. Plus, the multiplats just come down to controller preference, I prefer the 360 controller.
my PC takes up most of my gaming time (sins eats lives...LIVES!!!!!).then the wii (still playing galaxy and just got no more heros which is a kewl game).then the PS3...playing alot of PS2 games on it at the mo.lastly the 360...im planning to get lost oddessy for it but at the mo its collecting dust...has been since i finished ME.
PC most always.On consoles last gen PS2 and Xbox got about equal play for GTA and HaloCE. This gen 360 and PS3 are about equal play time. Both have been complete garbage imo so far. And guess which one has all its major exclusives out? Aside from SMG and now an occasional round of Smash my Wii gets zero play. Such a pathetic overpriced joke of a system.
PS3, Wii, PSP, DS, 360.
Last gen : PS2 easilyThis gen : PC ftw ( yet )

Whats the most Funniest / Evil thing you ...

For me it has to be the time in which I was playing Cod4 and I did a hardcore team deathmatch and my whole team was following me and I threw a grenade under a car and killed the whole of my team, my score must have been about -400 thanks to that :)Whats the most Funniest / Evil thing you ...
I don't want to say it but..I accidentally teabagged someone in Halo 3. I'm so ashamed :(Whats the most Funniest / Evil thing you ...
Spend 3 hours on COD4 just team killing. I had a rough day, and took it out on COD4.
Hmm killing the WoW hunter with his pet.
stealing downs in gears, but i only do it to people that annoy me ;)
I named my sniper kit on COD4 ***balls. (the first word rhymes with bag). And for some reason when me teammates found out it was super funny to them. For a short period I was the only one doing anything that game cause they were all laughing so hard. Who knew?
Neverwinter Nights on a server that I used to play on.A friend of a friend was partying with 2 other friends down in an the Ant Colony which we called it. They were there to kill ants to get exp. It was underground with only one entrance and the area was fairly large and very narrow.I was an Assassin with one level of Shadow Dancer which allowed me to use Hide and Plain Sight (which allows me to go invisible and undetected at the push of a button) and I just kept stealing from them for about a half an hour straight while they were fighting ants and had no idea.It was great because I got extremely great gear (+4s and everything) and he was only a level 10, so he obviously transfered items from a higher level character of his to save for when he got high enough for this character (which was illegal to do on this server).Good times.
Sniped somebody in the head from 1km away while he was free falling from a helocoptor in Battlefield 2. He was pissed lets put it that way.
I played Neverwinter Nights in a hardcore roleplaying server and exploited some glitches and killed some people in cold blood and did some other stuff too.Like littering. Actually littering was a pretty high offense in that server because it made the game lag a lot. I also killed some NPCs that were picking the trash up.
On battlefield modern combat, I picked special ops and planted c4's all over the helecopters windshield, when one of my team mates entered it I'd blow it up before they could jump out. Sometimes I'd take a helecopter full of people and just parachute out when nobody expected me too.
Everytime I play Halo 3 big team battle on Sandtrap, I always ram one elephant up the nose of the other one at an angle so that no one can actually jump up and catch the flag. Then I stick a warthog in front of it to stop anyone easily getting in to fix it and shoot anyone who does :PFirst time I did it was the best! Every guy on the server starting shouting ''WTF!?'' ''Who the f*** did this s***'' ''F*** YOU DONWOOGIE!'' Ah! I pissed myself laughing as everyone just stuck around til the end of map unable to score any more falg captures :D
One of the funniest/evil things I did was probably in Gears Of War I was in a ranked match my team left and the other team wanted me to go so they started trash talking me, but I wasn't ready to lose my points so I glitched out of the map every round get a few kills and it would usually end in a draw eventually the other team left because it took to long. They were mad but I had fun :D.
On warhawk I had the flag and someone ran me over. was annoyed so I spent a good few games assassinating him. I found him in a base so I got in a warhawk, landed on a mountain and had some sniping fun :)Everytime he moved i tracked him with the radar and sniped him, then once I ran him over as he was running down a road.
I was playing rainbow six vegas and joined a map I didn't know. The game started and I ran straight off what I thought was a small ledge...turns out I was on a building, and I fell to my death.This in itself isn't that funny, what was funny is that when you die and are restawning you get to watch the game from the 3rd person view of another guy in your team...the dude follows me off the side of the building thinking I know where I am going.One by one the entire team, all following me, falls off the side of the building, to their death
[QUOTE=''NinjaMunkey01'']On warhawk I had the flag and someone ran me over. was annoyed so I spent a good few games assassinating him. I found him in a base so I got in a warhawk, landed on a mountain and had some sniping fun :)Everytime he moved i tracked him with the radar and sniped him, then once I ran him over as he was running down a road. [/QUOTE]Rofl, in Warhawk, I just get a jeep, honk my horn to get two people in, then drive to no man's land and bail out just over the border and run back in and watch as the other two frantically try to get back in the map before their life runs out but they never make it :P
Mine would be in Guild Wars. I took some low levels out on a mission (me max level) and left them pretty close to the end because they wouldn't listen, so they didn't finish the mission. It was about 45 minutes they had to repeat.
Ive done Car bombs in BF2...I put like 5 packs of C4 on a jeep and drove it into an enemy base and blew it up...killed myself to, but it was so worth it.
playing halo 3 at a friends house, and killing my teamates and then teabagging them.
Cod3 is better for team killing because you can have split screen online, so me, my mate and his brother went on one map, and right at the beginning just started cooking a grenade each, ran into a group of our team each and blew them all up, we literally blew up 25 people, it was awesome. We got kickbanned.
[QUOTE=''bobbetybob'']Cod3 is better for team killing because you can have split screen online, so me, my mate and his brother went on one map, and right at the beginning just started cooking a grenade each, ran into a group of our team each and blew them all up, we literally blew up 25 people, it was awesome. We got kickbanned.[/QUOTE]Yeah, in COD3 when anybody team killed me I'd find them (as a medic) killem with my shotgun then revive them with my syringe, and then kill him again, and then revive them again, and pretty much do that until I was kicked or until the game was over.

angst with GH and RB

So i'm not here to bash guitar hero or rock band...ok maybe just a little....but they really are cool games, but these games are like cancer for our online stores. A lot of the updates the network stores get would be non-exitent without these games and I just get tired of seeing NEW TRACK NEW TRACK NEW TRACK every week and especially on the psn I am excited that there will be no new updates for a while now and I can have a break from seeing all the stupid guitar hero and rock band updates every week. Anyway...just felt like ranting

eye lips

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http://press-nintendo.110mb.com/article-jsp-id-14788.htm''No one wants to play the same game forever. However, sometimes it is impractical, both for Nintendo and for our customers, to release a new sequel to all our games every year. In order to solve this problem, Nintendo will begin offering the Wii Want More%26trade; service this May. By logging into the Wii Shop Channel players will be able to purchase new content for games they already own for a fraction of the price it would cost to buy a new game.

We are pleased to announce that one of 27 games to make use of the Wii Want More service at its launch will be none other than our very own best selling Super Smash Bros.?Brawl! Starting May 13, 2008, players will be able to add four undisclosed new characters and two new stages to the already large roster included in the stand-alone game for only 10.00 USD. Our customers will be even more pleased to discover that this particular package will be offered completely free of charge for the first month after the launch of Wii Want More. A better deal has never been offered by any company in the Video Game industry.

In addition to Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Nintendo will offer content for The Legend of Zelda? Twilight Princess, Fire Emblem%26trade;: Radiant Dawn, Metroid?Prime 3: Corruption, and Mario Kart?Wii, as well as several titles available through the Wii Ware%26trade; service. Wii Want More will also allow our numerous third party developers to offer downloadable content for both previously released and upcoming games. This spring, be ready to ask for more!'' ....The only thing that makes me think this is an April Fool's Joke is that Sakurai said he wasn't going to have extra characters up for download... :? Kind of wierd that he would say that and then have announcement completely contradictory to what he said. I hope this is true though. I'd love some more content for TP and Fire Emblem. :D*Please lock*
It's already confirmed fake.*Please lock*
:? Sakurai said there was no way for Brawl to access download content... and Fire Emblem doesn't have any way to connect online. If you go and download the stuff, how will it access the data? That flash memory first off would be killed even faster I'm sure, but the fact that these games don't seem to access any form of connection the the internet baffles me.I'll take it with a grain of salt though, I just don't know about it... but it would be wicked if true...
cool if true
[QUOTE=''Fick1122'']It's already confirmed fake.[/QUOTE]Really? :? That is Nintendo's official site for news though...
This better be an April Fool's Day joke. Sure, it's totally worth paying for new characters Super Smash Bros. Brawl since different characters offer a completely different experience, not to mention because Brawl's so balanced that no character has been proven to be worthless (well, not yet at least as far as I know), but it just doesn't seem right to me.That, and I don't have any of my consoles online. :(
if this was any day but the day before april fools day...i would beleive this...but it just seems to good to be true, cumon megaman!and sakuri said he wasen't going to do any download content, dosen't mean nintendo won't
[QUOTE=''nintendofreak_2''][QUOTE=''Fick1122'']It's already confirmed fake.[/QUOTE]Really? :? That is Nintendo's official site for news though...[/QUOTE]I must admit, it's hard to doubt it's legitamacy nor have I never heard of this till today either, but I'm just questionable about it is all too. I must admit, how can one doubt Nintendo's Press Site (usually for the media/developers to read) even if this isn't posted on Nintendo.com.

[QUOTE=''nintendofreak_2''][QUOTE=''Fick1122'']It's already confirmed fake.[/QUOTE]Really? :? That is Nintendo's official site for news though...[/QUOTE]I remember Nintendo saying that they wanted to add Downloadable content for Twilight Princess so that one could be true. It was E3 when they first announced the Wii.
April Fools!
[QUOTE=''Nintendo_Ownes7''][QUOTE=''nintendofreak_2''][QUOTE=''Fick1122'']It's already confirmed fake.[/QUOTE]Really? :? That is Nintendo's official site for news though...[/QUOTE]I remembering Nintendo saying that they wanted to add Downloadable content for Twilight Princess so that one could be true.[/QUOTE]

Yea I remember that also.... PLZ god give me brawl characters and twilight princess.
[QUOTE=''Technoweirdo'']This better be an April Fool's Day joke. Sure, it's totally worth paying for new characters Super Smash Bros. Brawl since different characters offer a completely different experience, not to mention because Brawl's so balanced that no character has been proven to be worthless (well, not yet at least as far as I know), but it just doesn't seem right to me.That, and I don't have any of my consoles online. :([/QUOTE]No fighting game has ever had a cast of characters that are ''all balanced.'' It isn't to do with cheapness or tricks really, but in terms of teir levels, there are always characters who will perform better than others. It still doesn't mean a low tier character with a good player can't be a mid or high tier character with a good player too. But rule of thumb in fighters is, you can't always make everyone balanced or ''the best.'' There hasn't been any real findings of balance and tiers for Brawl yet, but you will see soon that some characters just can't compare to others in tiers.
[QUOTE=''yoshi_64'']I must admit, it's hard to doubt it's legitamacy nor have I never heard of this till today either, but I'm just questionable about it is all too. I must admit, how can one doubt Nintendo's Press Site (usually for the media/developers to read) even if this isn't posted on Nintendo.com.
[/QUOTE]It's fake. :( Look at the url. It has that 110mb thing after it. Someone else just made it look like Nintendo's press site. >_> Dang it. Lock this thread mods.
what a horrible name -Pay to Play-
is not even april.. yet

Here is why I pay $50 a year for xbox li ...

I am tired of seeing the same old thread, ''why do you pay for xbox live''1. I am not a pc gamer. I do not have the wallet or even desire to be a pc gamer.2. I like voice chat and communication. It is non-existant on the wii and pretty much non-existant on the ps3. Communication is important in games and xbox live offers it.3. Gamers. Xbox360 by a fair mile offers the best console online games period. 4. Users- Xbox live also has by far the most users. On the wii, most of the kids go to bed so it's hard to find a game at night. The ps3 online games have some users but not a ton. I get tons of variety on xbox live.5. Games are integrated for xbox live. Yeah most are p2p but its easily the best console online system ever. Sorry if you cows don't get that and want to live in ps3 fantasy world. Wii and PS3 got a long long way to go to even compete with live.Overall, is it worth less then 1 game cost a year? Without even blinking an eye, YES! If your a child who has not job and can't afford it then I might understand, but go mow some lawns and you can get it easily. Here is why I pay $50 a year for xbox li ...
Sure your reasons are justified, however P2P!!!! It's not like they need to maintain servers so it's beyond me why they charge for it since everything else in Xbox live costs money too, even a freaking skin or a new gamer tag... P2P is the same as a lan party, should they charge you for those too? You're paying microsoft for something that should be free. It's the principle of the thing.Here is why I pay $50 a year for xbox li ...
Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap.
[QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.
[QUOTE=''karasill'']Sure your reasons are justified, however P2P!!!! It's not like they need to maintain servers so it's beyond me why they charge for it since everything else in Xbox live costs money too, even a freaking skin or a new gamer tag... P2P is the same as a lan party, should they charge you for those too? You're paying microsoft for something that should be free. It's the principle of the thing.[/QUOTE]p2p isn't free. They have to organize it so strangers and friends alike join a game. They also have to maintain gamers score, reputation, and many other things. Its not like you say free. Those other things you say are optional. Not neccessary.
[QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] what about free good apps on the pc? steam+xfire>>>>>>>xbox live
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo'']If your a child who has not job and can't afford it then I might understand, but go mow some lawns and you can get it easily. [/QUOTE]That's what I tell childish console fanboys (aka You) about PC gaming. :)
[QUOTE=''karasill''][QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.[/QUOTE]It maybe free in some regard but alot of games do require fees. The pc hardware alone to play some of these games are just ridiulous. Pc gaming communtiy is not as organized.
[QUOTE=''karasill'']Sure your reasons are justified, however P2P!!!! It's not like they need to maintain servers so it's beyond me why they charge for it since everything else in Xbox live costs money too, even a freaking skin or a new gamer tag... P2P is the same as a lan party, should they charge you for those too? You're paying microsoft for something that should be free. It's the principle of the thing.[/QUOTE]Exactly.That being said, I'm still going to renew my subscription in a few days. However I hate Microsoft for it.I wish I could find out whoever had the idea and #$%^#$ #$%%26%$%26 #$#$% #%26^($. (Cencored for graphic language, violence and sadistic content.).
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo''][QUOTE=''karasill''] [QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.[/QUOTE] It maybe free in some regard but alot of games do require fees. The pc hardware alone to play some of these games are just ridiulous. Pc gaming communtiy is not as organized.[/QUOTE] ???? because you think xbox live is more organized?
Yes all that stuff is nice but it costs microsoft id say about nothing. They are making a full profit on xbox live. That is crap.
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo'']5. Games are integrated for xbox live. Yeah most are p2p but its easily the best console online system ever. Sorry if you cows don't get that and want to live in ps3 fantasy world. Wii and PS3 got a long long way to go to even compete with live.[/QUOTE] whoa...damage control at it's finest
$50 a year is a great deal.XBL is a Service %26 PSN is a network, it maybe Free... but that doesnt mean its better.
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo''] [QUOTE=''karasill'']Sure your reasons are justified, however P2P!!!! It's not like they need to maintain servers so it's beyond me why they charge for it since everything else in Xbox live costs money too, even a freaking skin or a new gamer tag... P2P is the same as a lan party, should they charge you for those too? You're paying microsoft for something that should be free. It's the principle of the thing.[/QUOTE] p2p isn't free. They have to organize it so strangers and friends alike join a game. They also have to maintain gamers score, reputation, and many other things. Its not like you say free. Those other things you say are optional. Not neccessary.[/QUOTE] P2P isn't? It's just a program that determines who wants to play what and who can offer a decent connection. Everything you've mentioned is maintined by a program that probably costs less then $25,000 to make. No servers are being maintained, P2P is just like having a lan party. It's just connection consoles together, onthing more.
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo''][QUOTE=''karasill''][QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.[/QUOTE]It maybe free in some regard but alot of games do require fees. The pc hardware alone to play some of these games are just ridiulous. Pc gaming communtiy is not as organized.[/QUOTE]Wow. Such ignorance has not be posted since the days of Wok7.PC online gaming costs nothing. PC hardware doesn't cost that much as all.The PC gaming community is A BILLION times more organized.. People actually know what they're talking about.Seriously....
Here is something you can grasp. I really don't care what it cost Microsoft. I like xbox live and am willing to pay the price. It is much better then the wii and ps3. Simple
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo''][QUOTE=''karasill''] [QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.[/QUOTE] It maybe free in some regard but alot of games do require fees. The pc hardware alone to play some of these games are just ridiulous. Pc gaming communtiy is not as organized.[/QUOTE] What fees? :| Last time I checked it only applies to SOME MMORPGS.... And very few games require Godly hardware to play and enjoy. The PC has this thing called steam that is just aa organized as Xbox Live, but the great thing about it is that it's free.
[QUOTE=''Relys''][QUOTE=''Kidtendo''][QUOTE=''karasill''][QUOTE=''Hawkeye1987'']Well I would rather pay 50$ and have a good online service. Sure, PS3 online is free but in my opinion, the features are nowhere near as good as XBL. You get what you pay for. These days, everything costs something. If you get something for free, you get something cheap. [/QUOTE] PC has free online gaming (exception of some MMORPG's) that is better then Xbox live. Care to explain that? Also, I'm sure once Sony launches Home, it'll be up to par with Xbox Live and will probably still be free.[/QUOTE]It maybe free in some regard but alot of games do require fees. The pc hardware alone to play some of these games are just ridiulous. Pc gaming communtiy is not as organized.[/QUOTE]Wow. Such ignorance has not be posted since the days of Wok7.PC online gaming costs nothing. PC hardware doesn't cost that much as all.The PC gaming community is A BILLION times more organized.. People actually know what they're talking about.Seriously.... [/QUOTE]You can not be this ignorant. I'm sorry to tell you but the pc gaming is dying a slow death. If you look at multiplatform games and compare pc and console games, Consoles sell on average 10x as much. Cod 4 is a prime example. It sold about 300,00 on the pc, on xbox 360 alone it sold 3.5 million and more. Games like World Of Warcraft, Runescape, and many other games do require a monthly fee to play. In my opinion pc gaming sucks. Sorry but that is the bottom line.
[QUOTE=''Kidtendo'']Here is something you can grasp. I really don't care what it cost Microsoft. I like xbox live and am willing to pay the price. It is much better then the wii and ps3. Simple[/QUOTE] Good for you. ;) Now for people who don't feel like getting ripped off, consider PC gaming, heck even the PS3...
[QUOTE=''RoboThreat'']$50 a year is a great deal.XBL is a Service %26 PSN is a network, it maybe Free... but that doesnt mean its better.[/QUOTE]Most fanboys can't grasp the reality ''you get what you pay for''